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Giaus Felix
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.08.31 15:55:48 -
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Avvy wrote:So even PvE is PvP, that makes it simpler. In the specific case of Eve, this would be true.
A very large percentage, if not all of the PvE content in Eve is designed to put you in conflict with other players, whether it be for resources, market share, power, influence, e-peen size etc.
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Giaus Felix
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.01.18 19:34:14 -
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King Aires wrote:baltec1 wrote:King Aires wrote:
So you have no proof then. Thanks for that information-gasm
I see we have someone who cant look up super easy to find stuff for themselves again How quickly people forget that for a month the forums were almost nothing but whines about how my corp were destroying EVE and making mining impossible and how CCP should nerf us all. I was waiting for you to post. Here ya go, proof you are wrong. ProcurersRetrieverCovetorSkiffMackObeliskNot that I think ganking has anything to do with the player numbers in the least, but at least it shows your nostalgia is bigger than the truth. Zkill is hilariously inaccurate prior to 2012 because the consolidation of evekill and zkill data didn't start until then. Even now it isn't fully consolidated with corp killboards that are hosted by 3rd parties.
Your data set is incomplete and thus inaccurate.
I am Ralph's junk DNA.
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Giaus Felix
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.01.18 19:49:47 -
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King Aires wrote:Less accurate than "my corp ganked a bunch"? Nice deflect. Go ahead and look it up on eve-kill then.
Pointing out a truth is not a deflection.
FYI The gallente ice interdiction is a matter of record, as are Hulkageddons 1 through 5. All of them took place when Eve had a higher average PCU than it currently does.
Baltec's claim of "my corp killed a bunch" is fact, as is his statement of player numbers being higher when the event he describes took place; what you're presenting is a conclusion based upon data that is known to be inaccurate.
I am Ralph's junk DNA.
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Giaus Felix
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.01.18 20:10:03 -
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King Aires wrote:So what if events took place when there was more players. There is a number of problems with your logic. Isolated events doesn't even add up to the totality of the reality during 2014 and 2015. And ganking is not the reason for player increase or player decrease. You are adding causality where there isn't any. I've made no claims of any kind especially with regards to cause and effect, I merely present historical facts regarding the PCU when the events Baltec described took place.
Quote:http://beta.eve-kill.net/ship/17480/stats/
Eve-Kill paints the same picture. Its the only data we have available since BC is gone. By the way, I believe both use API now so it would be very hard for either site to be "completely inaccurate" and I would highly doubt that goons/code didn't upload every gank to their own killboard (which feeds these sites). This particular nugget has come up many times in the past, prior to 2012 killboards only collected data from the API keys provided by the players who used it; one of my other characters has multiple losses to other players, prior to 2012, that don't appear on any killboards whatsoever because of it.
I repeat, your conclusion is based upon inaccurate data; the inaccuracies are down to many things, including the way that killboards used to work, that many players hadn't submitted their API keys to killboards, etc, etc.
CODE would have had a hard job uploading all their kills prior to 2012, they didn't exist, as an organisation or an alliance, their killboard is likely to be fairly accurate because zkill is their killboard host and has been since their inception. Goons on the other hand probably have their own internal killboard that may or may not be synced with zkill and evekill, even if it is I'm uncertain as to how far back the sync would go or if the API has limits on how far back you can go.
I am Ralph's junk DNA.
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Giaus Felix
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.01.19 17:53:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:I've known people like you my whole life, too busy arguing to realize you're arguing for the wrong things lol. Yeah, and I've met people like you, far too busy yammering on about how they know better and telling other people what they are feeling and how they should act to realise their their actually clueless and most people just nod at them until they go away. Pot meet kettle, you're both black.
I am Ralph's junk DNA.
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